Monday, March 1, 2010

Prospect Rundown, Part 2

Continuing where we left off last time…

While I admire Keith Law’s willingness to put himself out there with Eric Hosmer, I agree with the consensus opinion that the Royals’ best prospect is Mike Montgomery. Montgomery ranks #35 overall on Baseball Prospectus’ list, and #39 on Baseball America’s list (Law has him just #75 overall). Montgomery is a good piece of scouting, a projectable left-handed arm out of southern California that the Royals took with a supplemental first-round pick in 2008. His elite ranking stems from the fact that he makes scouts and stats types go equally gaga over him.

His stats are terrific; last season, split between Burlington and Wilmington, Montgomery threw 110 innings, allowed just 80 hits and 36 walks, and struck out 98 batters. He allowed one homer all year. His career ERA as a pro is 2.06. But what separates Monty from, say, Danny Duffy, who has nearly as impressive stats but not nearly the prospect cache, are two things: 1) his stuff and 2) his projection.

His stuff is already major-league caliber – he throws in the low 90s, which is plenty for a lefty, and he has the makings of both a [high-]quality curveball and changeup. His curveball overmatches minor leaguers, but he throws a weird palm curveball that people are skeptical will work at higher levels, and the Royals are working with him to master a more traditional one.

Right now, he has the repertoire of a #2 or #3 starter. But what vaults Montgomery into elite status is that, at 6’5” and just 180 pounds, he was expected to add velocity when he was drafted, and while it’s up a tick, many think that his fastball hasn’t peaked yet. He gets high marks for his mechanics, and he repeats them well, also leading credence to the theory that the best is yet to come. He doesn’t turn 21 until July 1st. He’s famously competitive – thrown off his high school basketball team for committing too many technicals – and his work ethic is such that the Royals had to work with him to dial down his between-starts throwing regimen last spring. He should start the year in Double-A, and while everyone thinks Aaron Crow will be the first of the Royals’ wave of young pitchers to reach the majors, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Montgomery is pitching in the majors come September.

Crow is the consensus #2 prospect in the organization; BP ranks him #53, and BA ranks him #40 (right behind Montgomery) overall. Law has him #87. Crow is in many ways the opposite of Montgomery – he’s almost a finished product, a right-hander drafted out of college (and then, when he didn’t sign, drafted out of the independent leagues by the Royals a la Luke Hochevar).

His fastball is maybe a tick faster than Montgomery’s, though without the projection for more, and from the right side his velocity is not quite as special as Montgomery’s. What makes Crow’s fastball special is his command of the pitch, as well as the fact that it has natural sinking motion. And whereas Montgomery – like most Royals’ prospects – throws a curveball, Crow’s out pitch is a tight slider that is unhittable when it’s on. His changeup, though is still a work in progress, and some people worry about his mechanics.

I’ve seen Crow compared to a lot of pitchers, but the comparison I’d like to make – because I like being reckless – is that if everything works out, he could sort of resemble Kevin Appier. Appier worked primarily off a good sinking fastball and a hard-breaking slider, rarely threw a changeup, and people worried about his unorthodox motion for years even though he never suffered a serious arm injury until an off-field injury tore up his shoulder. I don’t think Crow will be quite that good, but it’s something to shoot for.

With Crow, we simply won’t know for a while what we have, because his only pro experience to date is a short stint in the Arizona Fall League. He gave up 17 hits in 15 innings pitched – no surprise, given the hitter-friendly nature of the league – but more tellingly, he walked just 2 batters and struck out 12. It’s a very small sample size, but fits with the notion that Crow is an advanced arm, who will probably start in Double-A, and could be ready for a major-league audition as soon as mid-season.

While Montgomery and Crow are a pretty easy consensus for the Royals’ two best prospects, the competition for the third spot is a heated one. In one corner you have Mike Moustakas, the #2 pick in the land in 2007, but who suffered through a disappointing 2009. In the other you have Wil Myers, the Royals’ third-round pick just this past summer, but who after signing for a $2 million bonus opened eyes and dropped jaws with his performance in rookie ball.

Both BA and BP rank Moustakas ahead on their Top 100 Prospects list; BP has Moustakas #79 and Myers #83, while BA has Moustakas #80 and doesn’t rank Myers. But strangely, the Baseball America Prospect Handbook, which ranks the top 30 prospects for every organization, ranks Myers as the Royals #3 prospect and Moustakas #4.

Moustakas seems destined to me to a disappointment, as much as for what others (like Matt Wieters and Rick Porcello) have done as for what he hasn’t done. What Moustakas hasn’t done is convert his still formidable skills into performance. He has ridiculous bat speed, but he swings at too many bad pitches to take full advantage of it. In 2008, he hit a promising .272/.337/.468, walked a reasonable amount (43 times in 496 AB), and hit 22 homers (the most by a teenager in the Midwest League in years). Last season, his offensive game took a step backward in every way: he hit just .250, he walked just 32 times in 492 AB, and he hist just 16 homers (although he did hit 32 doubles). Overall, his line of .250/.297/.421 was unacceptable.

The elephant in the room is Daniel S. Frawley Stadium, where the Wilmington Blue Rocks play. The Blue Rocks have played in one of the minors’ best pitchers’ parks since they joined the Carolina League nearly two decades ago, and Moustakas would hardly be the first Royals prospect to struggle there. At the same age Moustakas was last year, Carlos Beltran hit just .229/.311/.363 for the Blue Rocks; two years later he was the AL Rookie of the Year.

There’s a well-researched article here which points out that while Wilmington is a tough place to hit overall, it’s actually not a bad park for left-handed power hitters, because the right-field fence is considerably closer than the left-field one. That may be true, but the fact remains that last season, Moustakas hit just .205/.266/.373 at home, and .292/.331/.473 on the road (numbers approximate). Maybe Frawley Stadium affected him mentally more than physically – its reputation precedes itself – but regardless, on the road Moustakas’ numbers were a doppelganger of his 2008 performance. With a promotion to relatively hitter-friendly Northwest Arkansas this year, we’ll see if there’s a breakout performance coming.

I’m still confident that he will develop into a strong power threat, but I’m increasingly worried that he’ll never develop the plate discipline that he needs to be an above-average player. Case in point: after his disappointing season for Wilmington, Moustakas headed to the Arizona Fall League, and took advantage of the thin air to slug .560 and hit 5 homers and 11 extra-base hits overall in just 75 at-bats. But he drew just 2 walks the entire time he was down there, and finished with a .288 OBP. We have enough sub-.300 OBPs on the roster already. Moustakas is young enough to improve in that regard, but he’s also in arguably the worst organization in baseball when it comes to teaching him the strike zone.

The other major concern I have with Moustakas is a lack of a defined position, which stems in part from the fact that he has a weird set of defensive tools. He has a cannon for an arm, strong enough that he hit the low-90s from the mound while in high school. The problem is that he just doesn’t have the body type to play the infield. I finally got a good look at Moustakas during the AFL all-star game, and was struck by just how unathletic he looked. He has what the scouts call a “thick lower half”: he has big thighs, and – there’s no nice way to put this – a big ass. Honestly, the first thought I had when I saw him was, “he looks just like Billy Butler.” That doesn’t mean he can’t hit, but as Butler has proven, that does mean that you can’t play the left side of the infield without eliciting an unending stream of guffaws. (And in three plate appearances, Moose saw a total of four pitches, twice putting the first pitch in play.)

With that arm, he could certainly move to right field, but in addition to losing a lot of positional value out there, I’m not sure he has the speed to be even an average defender out there, and he’s not going to pick up speed as he ages. In addition to being an average runner at best, Moustakas is also short and squat. He’s listed as 6’0” and 195 pounds in BA’s Handbook, and it would be wonderful if that were the case. According to his player page, he’s 5’11” and 230 pounds.

Over the last few years there have been two grassroots movements afoot to move two Royals into different roles. The first has been the campaign to move Joakim Soria into the starting rotation. I would love to see how Soria would do as a starter, to satisfy my curiosity if nothing else, but I have made my peace with the Royals’ decision to keep him in the bullpen. There are legitimate concerns about him losing velocity in the rotation, his slight frame, his history of arm problems – I can understand the Royals’ reluctance to meddle with one of their greatest assets, particularly with a wave of young starting pitching about to crest.

But I’m riding shotgun for the other bandwagon movement, the one that says that the Royals should move Moustakas behind the plate. This isn’t a new idea; I’ve heard baseball analysts like Law suggest it for two years now. And as much as the Royals want to dismiss the idea as just so much fan-induced craziness, it’s neither crazy nor fan-induced. On the contrary, the most vehement supporters of this idea are generally scouts for other teams.

If you poll scouts from other organizations who have followed Moustakas, you will find a sizeable minority, if not a majority, of them think that it’s a great idea. That’s both because Moustakas has the perfect raw tools to be a catcher (not too tall, agile but not fast, laser arm), and because he doesn’t really fit anywhere else on the diamond. Just two months ago I spoke with a scout about some of the Royals’ prospects, and the first thing out of his mouth when I inquired about Moustakas was “man, I’d really love to see what he could do behind the plate.”

That the Royals have shown absolutely no inclination to even entertain the idea is not an indictment of the idea, but of the Royals. Once again, we see one of the central failings of the organization: a team that plays in one of the game’s smallest markets, a franchise that was once the class of baseball in large part because of its willingness to think outside the box (the Royals Baseball Academy, anyone?), simply refuses to think of creative solutions to their problems. Moustakas has a great arm and good first-step quickness, but he’s not built to be a third baseman. I suppose he could be a third baseman the way Ron Cey was a third baseman – Cey was known as “The Penguin” because of the way he waddled when he ran. Cey was 5’10” and 185 pounds – Moose has nearly 50 pounds on him.

So Moustakas may not make for a good third baseman, and anyway the Royals still have Alex Gordon over there. While Gordon may remain a bust, it doesn’t make sense to plan for failure. The Royals don’t need Moustakas at first base. He’s unlikely to be anything more than an average right fielder, and a move there would make the deficiencies in his bat that much more glaring. And yet there’s a position on the field where 1) Moustakas has the raw skills to develop into an above-average defender; 2) the offensive requirements are much less demanding – if Moustakas hits .270 with 25 homers, even with poor plate discipline he'd be one of the best-hitting catchers in baseball; 3) the Royals have an enormous need.

Naturally, the Royals have shown absolutely no interest in the idea. Never mind that other teams have had great success with converted catchers. Russell Martin was drafted as a third baseman, and is now one of the best defensive backstops in baseball. Jorge Posada was a second baseman in his first pro season. Michael Barrett – a first-round pick – was a shortstop in his first season in the minors, before he was pointed in the direction of home plate. Geovany Soto dabbled in the outfield and on the infield corners his first two years in the minors. Hell, Mike Piazza had never caught in his life when the Dodgers signed him and handed him a mask.

So yeah, count me among those who think that the only way for Moustakas to reach his true potential is become a catcher. Sure, it might slow down his progression to the majors. But let’s face it: he’s no longer on the fast track to Kansas City in the first place. It’s going to take at least another year or two before he’s ready no matter where he plays. Given that, the Royals might as well move him to a position where he’ll be worth the wait.

Speaking of catchers, more on Wil Myers – and some other top prospects – still to come.

Addendum: After I posted this article, a source with connections to the Royals contacted me to let me know that, late last year, the Royals did in fact quietly broach the subject of moving behind the plate with Moustakas. He made it clear that he had no interest in such a move, and the idea was shelved.

While in a perfect world a team could tell one of their top prospects to jump and he'd respond with "how high?", back in the real world it's probably not a good idea to force a position change on a player without getting some buy-in from him. If Moustakas were a complete bust at this point, the Royals might push the subject a little harder on the premise that they had nothing to lose. But he's not; there's still a good chance that his bat will come around to the point where he's an asset at third base, or any other position. So I stand corrected: the Royals tried, and I can't fault them for not succeeding.

Also, I've been told that immediately after the AFL, Moustakas - at the behest of both the Royals and his agent, the Scott Boras Corporation - enrolled in an intense workout regimen designed to make his soft body a little less so. This fits with the word out of spring training that he looks to be in much better shape than last season. I know, I know - this is National Best Shape of His Life Month. But at least Moustakas recognized there was a problem, and - no one questions his work ethic - applied himself towards fixing it. Of all the Royals' top prospects, he's the only one whose shape I worry about, so if anyone gets a good sighting of him this spring, I'd love to hear about it.


Armywopilot said...

Completely agree about Moose. I've worried about where he will play not only defensively but offensively. It makes way too much sense to move him behind the plate...thus the Royals will never even think about it...sad

Anonymous said...

didn't the royals used to make pitchers shelve their sliders and throw curveballs to save arm strain? i think that's why we NEVER have arm issues :)

Nathan said...


Do you think Montgomery should be allowed to keep his "weird palm curve ball," or do you (and the scouts you know) agree with the Royals that it won't baffle major leaguers?

Shelby said...

I'm guessing the "weird palm curve" has a more gradual break than the more typical, sudden break, which could lead to a slightly-quicker recognition on the part of the batter.

Anonymous said...

It's articles like this that I started reading this blog in the first place. Thanks for an insightful read for a Royals fan. Pretty soon we will have 7 months for people to be negative again.

Kansas City Jesus Freaks! said...

This organization has hired and surrounded itself by descrimination against those who don't take Jesus Christ as their personal savior. I've been watching this team for all of my life. Since the takeover by David Glass he has made it his personal goal to only hire and sign players that are over the top christians. Not that I have a problem with the religion... it just becomes an issue when tax payer money sponsers the building of a new stadium when the goal of the organization is to promote christianity. Take this as example:

Repent! Another Kansas City Holy Royals season is around the bend. Led by our Christ fearing coach:

Notice the "Better Dads, Stronger Sons" title sitting on this desk?

If you want to play for the Royals you have to take Jesus as your personal savior. We've had a long line of similiar players... Take Mike Sweeney who openly was trying to take out stem cell research in Missouri. Why doesn't this get called out? You want to ask why Kansas City doesn't sign top free-agents? Because they force pre-game prayer. If you are not in the Jesus club you won't start.... and won't be part of the team.

greg said...

I guess you're saying the reason why they booted Rany from player access is because he's a muslim and not christian.

I think you need to lighten up there dude.

Anonymous said...

Wow. I think that's the first time I've heard a religious (or anti-religious?) zealot comment on this blog. Funny stuff!

Rany-Excellent article, although before the addendum I do take opposition to your stance that they don't think outside the box, etc. It comes off sounding like you're mad because they don't take your outside the box idea (although they apparently did try).

Me being a lefty, I'm really excited to see Montgomery whenever he comes up. I just hope they don't rush him a la Allard Baird.

Unknown said...

Rany Sir,
I'm glad to be reading your posts again now that baseball starts in around a month. Its been a long, long winter. I noticed that you seem to have a few decent connections inside the organization. I'd be very interested in knowing what the Royals are doing to ensure that 1. Moustakas learns to use the entire field and 2. Learns some plate discipline. I have a friend that scouts for the Twins, he's seen Moustakas more than a few times scouting the minor leagues and he says its pretty clear to him that, for some reason, Moustakas has been convinced that his job is adding power numbers for the Royals at any cost, even if at the cost of becoming a complete hitter thats a threat to all 3 fields. There are few players around that have the top hand Mous has. He's the anti-Alex Gordon in that he can wait back on pitches and still get the barrel of the bat into the zone on time, but for some reason he can't be convinced to wait on the ball. I've seen him in batting practice when he's sprayed hard hit line-drives foul, again and again, down the right field line. Its a tragic waste.

Secondly, I want to know what you and other think about Wil Myers. The kid is a hitter, thats easy to see. But isn't it also as easy to see that he's not a great defensive catcher? Royalscorner have Myers rated as their top catching prospect in the system but he's not listed in the top 3 in their defensive catching break-downs of blocking and receiving. Their rankings are as follows (this particular article is free to everyone so I feel fine reposting)

Best Arm:
1. Myers
2. Bonilla
3. Perez
Best Receiver:
1. Pina
2. Perez
3. McCauley
Best Overall Defense:
1. Pina
2. Perez
3. McCauley

Best Hitter:
1. Myers
2. Perez
3. Bonilla

Best Raw Power:
1. Myers
2. Bonilla
3. Jin-Ho

Most Athletic:
1. Myers
2. Cruz
3. Eigsti

It seems to me that Salvador Perez is the class of the system at that position, even though I know Myers is an extremely good hitter, hitting is just one aspect of a catcher, and catching is usually pretty bad on hitters numbers (we can't all be Joe Mauers and Piazzas). What are they projecting from a defensive standpoint and are they thinking about moving Myers to the outfield? With his game and athleticism he seems to the the prototypical left fielder. His bat will play anywhere. Any info on the above is welcome.

Karte said...

5'11" and 230? Perhaps "Moose" thought he should live up to his nickname and become as big as a moose. Yeesh.

Anonymous said...

Brosiusjb-Myers is relatively new to catching. He didn't catch a whole lot in high school, so he's still getting used to the position. Give him a year or so and then lets see how he is defensively.

kcghost said...

We can only hope Moose gets with the program. The Royals system is so vapor thin on position prospects we can't afford to have wasted a very high draft pick on one.

Anonymous said...

KC Jesus Freak, you are a whack job. I like a crazy conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but you are really off the deep end. What a kook.

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with Danny Duffy as a prospect? I was under the impression that the only reason the Royals were able to draft him as low as they did (2nd round, maybe--it was a few years ago now) was because he was coming off an injury at the time. Wasn't he the left hander who got like 18 K/9 in a short first stint in pro-ball?

How does that not equate to "having stuff"?

Anonymous said...

Ok... so maybe I was a little off the wall. Kansas City will never sign a top free agent or keep a star player with any sort of regularity. All I'm saying is that the head office are a bunch of religious zealots... they hire coaches that also are zealots. I'd hate to be in the clubhouse. If you don't go to church on sunday you're not in the club. Who wants to come play for a team like that? Who would want to stick around for less money and work under those circumstances? The worst part of it is that we as tax payers are footing the bill.

Anonymous said...

A good blog suggesting many of my same "kooky" thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Would hate to have Pujols, Schilling, Beltran, Josh Hamilton or Mo Rivera on the Royals' roster. Crazy Christians.

Anonymous said...

...where we think starting a samurai sword collection is an *excellent* idea.

Yeah, if Trey Hillman would use one of them to commit hara-kiri!

Anonymous said...

way to much ink on mike moustakas. would have preferred rany opinions on
1. why and conceptually how this player was drafted by the royals, and
2. what M's conditioning or lack thereof says about the Royals development program and minor league conditioning. is it safe to say, along with other concerns, while they may have state of the art weight rooms in the minors (Dayon Moore interview), they don't use them.

rey rey said...

Rany, great post as usual...keep 'em coming.

Jesus Freaks...I guess you are a Christianphobe.

Anonymous said...

You know what's funny? I don't think there are that many people who actually care what religion any player has, as long as that player hits/fields/pitches/runs well.

Anonymous said...

can't believe i am commenting on this, but i do think the royals try really hard to put themselves out there as good ol' fashion midwestern christian family values type people... although without sweeney it's been less visible/vocal. anyway, i think it's probably more market oriented than actual evangelizing.

royalsfan16 said...

I understand not wanting to force an unwanted position on a player, but at what point does the organization have to say "this is what we need. this is how you make it." He doesn't really project as a 3rd baseman, at least not his size. And we really don't need another .250 corner outfielder.

Whitey Herzog said...

They've been trying to get right with God ever since they made that deal with Satan right before the ninth inning of Game 6 of the 1985 World Series.


Anonymous said...

"Cey was 5’10” and 185 pounds"

Ron Cey was 5'10"? Maybe if they measured him with his cap on because there was a good three inches between the top of his head the the top of his cap.

Anonymous said...

They should just throw some money at Moose. Hey kid, heres a million bucks- go be a catcher. Problem solved. Then Myers moves to the OF, and everything is good.

RickMcKC said...

Rany, I just got back from Surprise this evening after spending four days at Spring Training. I have three pictures of the Moose at third base in the intra-squad game if you want 'em.

Rick said...

I'm so glad I know where I can get some viagra and cialis. Thanks for helping me know where to go, douchebag. Get a real job.

Jason Dixon said...

Moustakas is making a mistake by not moving to catcher. His career would last much longer. Ask Jamie Quirk. And as Rany mentioned, Moustakas would be quite valuable as a good hitting catcher from the left side. I'm surprised Boras doesn't see that, too, and isn't pushing for it, as well--they'd all make a lot more money in the long run.

And if the Royals were willing to help him develop into that, I'd imagine they'd also be willing to have more patience with his overall development, in the mean time. His lack of willingness to move is worrisome, as well, and would be a red flag in terms of his commitment to the betterment of the organization.

Funny, the Baltimore Orioles aren't trying to figure out where to play Matt Weiters (nor did Brian Matusz have to have Lasik surgery. he-he).

Anonymous said...

Players don't have to go to church on Sundays because the have baseball chapel at the field and yes they give players bibles