tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post8515202527427669453..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: A Teahen Rumor I (Want To) Believe.Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-8543526401680924242008-11-23T21:58:00.000-06:002008-11-23T21:58:00.000-06:00Contention isn't one game short of .500.Contention isn't one game short of .500.Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-89105099311424143502008-11-23T03:36:00.000-06:002008-11-23T03:36:00.000-06:00Those of you who are evaluating this trade on the ...Those of you who are evaluating this trade on the assumption that the Royals won't contend in the next couple of years need to reexamine your premises. These aren't your 1996-2007 Royals anymore. Dayton Moore thinks they can win soon, and that's why he's making trades like this.<BR/><BR/>The era of the 5-year-plan has been relegated to history in Kansas City as well as Moscow. and I for one am Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-29393989129509418822008-11-20T22:22:00.000-06:002008-11-20T22:22:00.000-06:00Dayton Moore has had plenty of time to make real a...Dayton Moore has had plenty of time to make real and effective change during his time but has held too closely to the wrong kind of principles--thinking that Guillen-types would be good investments, giving too much leeway to defense, playing Ross Gload, holding Grudz too long, not playing prospects that didn't have great pedigrees, keeping Bell as long as he did, playing Angel the final four Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-33342425770428736522008-11-20T22:03:00.000-06:002008-11-20T22:03:00.000-06:00The BoSox got Crisp in desperation after Damon lef...The BoSox got Crisp in desperation after Damon left and have pretty much been trying to get rid of him ever since. I get the sense he's a problem in the clubhouse which I guess gives Guillen someone to hang out with. And don't we want young, cheap players? Basically my rule now is WWAFD - if the Rays wouldn't trade for a guy, I don't want the Royals going after him either. GMDM: 0-2 this offrebmotihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05259844549383052794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-86042829103866600572008-11-20T17:21:00.000-06:002008-11-20T17:21:00.000-06:00no way... Teahen is a god on MLB PowerPros.no way... Teahen is a god on MLB PowerPros.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-87892311117019842802008-11-20T14:55:00.000-06:002008-11-20T14:55:00.000-06:00Being ranked as a #1 prospect by Baseball America ...Being ranked as a #1 prospect by Baseball America hasnt worked out too well for John Buck.<BR/><BR/>Pie in my opinion could be an All-Star break away from being the next Dee Brown.<BR/><BR/>That said, you snag Pie and Cedeno for a player who obviously wont fit in your lineup its a push at the very least.<BR/><BR/>One last note:I would be one who would be surprised if Teahen put up an 860 OPS Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-87593987400171323932008-11-20T14:53:00.000-06:002008-11-20T14:53:00.000-06:00Teahen to the Brewers for 2B Weeks. Bet on it. M...Teahen to the Brewers for 2B Weeks. Bet on it. Milwaukee is down on the former first round draft choice and need a left handed bat. I hope they don't demand DeJesus because I think Dayton would think long and hard about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-17603495583781057682008-11-20T14:31:00.000-06:002008-11-20T14:31:00.000-06:00Here is what I find so frustrating: It is now cle...Here is what I find so frustrating: It is now clear as day that Soria will return as the closer in '09.<BR/><BR/>This isn't exactly horrible news for Royals fans, but I don't really understand the thinking. We have a GM who says that pitching is currency, who claims to believe that relievers are fungible and who trades middle relievers as though he actually means it. So why not keep either Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-26405476104907670132008-11-20T12:21:00.000-06:002008-11-20T12:21:00.000-06:00let's not lose sight of the following: benito sant...let's not lose sight of the following: <BR/><BR/>benito santiago for leo nunez<BR/>leo nunez for mike jacobs<BR/><BR/>tony graffanino for jorge de la rosa<BR/>jorge de la rosa for ramon ramirez<BR/>ramon ramirez for coco crisp<BR/><BR/>essentially what moore has done is flip benito santiago for mike jacobs and tony graffanino for coco crisp. <BR/><BR/>i would call that a great return!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-10209461598655624562008-11-20T11:42:00.000-06:002008-11-20T11:42:00.000-06:00I don't like this Crisp-Ramirez trade for the Roya...I don't like this Crisp-Ramirez trade for the Royals.<BR/><BR/>Crisp is a below-average bat and an above average CF glove - so he's worth maybe 1.5 wins a season.<BR/><BR/>That's decent, but he's on a short-term contract for not insignificant dollars. Unless Moore thinks the Royals are going to content in 2009 or 2010, this move doesn't help him.<BR/><BR/>Ramirez is a bullpen arm, but he's a Irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03518627146470696953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-86556055865101654382008-11-20T10:45:00.000-06:002008-11-20T10:45:00.000-06:00Guillen would hit more homers that a DeJesus, Cris...<I>Guillen would hit more homers that a DeJesus, Crisp, Pie outfield combined</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe. Or Pie could start showing that 20-HR power in the majors, and the three of them combine for 35-40. Still a weak-hitting OF, but you know, Guillen's not the cure for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-78777647978875288142008-11-20T10:43:00.000-06:002008-11-20T10:43:00.000-06:00I just read that Pie is out of options, so that pr...I just read that Pie is out of options, so that probably means he won't be coming to KC, unless the Royals can unload Guillen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-54434892355890262382008-11-20T08:53:00.000-06:002008-11-20T08:53:00.000-06:00Eric, Are you serious? The Royals got a proven po...Eric, Are you serious? The Royals got a proven position player fro a freaking BULLPEN ARM. That's a WIN for the Royals. Besides, DM has proven that he can find bullpen arms almost at will. Again, it was a BULLPEN ARM. Why people overvalue BULLPEN ARMS is beyond me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-71823152935796435212008-11-20T08:48:00.000-06:002008-11-20T08:48:00.000-06:00There's been a lot of complaining about the Jacobs...There's been a lot of complaining about the Jacobs trade, and to a lesser extent, the Crisp trade. It seems pretty simple though. Moore stated that he's lost patience and wants to win now. He evaluated the team and realized they played Ross Gload at first for the majority of the year, and DeJesus, who I love, as leadoff and in CF. He's great but he's not a prototypical leadoff/CF guy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-54442427099779912422008-11-20T08:07:00.000-06:002008-11-20T08:07:00.000-06:00Yummm.....DeJesus Crisp Pie.Yummm.....<BR/><BR/>DeJesus Crisp Pie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66330028015338334352008-11-20T08:06:00.000-06:002008-11-20T08:06:00.000-06:00Guillen would hit more homers that a DeJesus, Cris...Guillen would hit more homers that a DeJesus, Crisp, Pie outfield combined. While excellent defensively, that would be the weakest offensive outfield in baseball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-54608961122751546532008-11-20T02:11:00.000-06:002008-11-20T02:11:00.000-06:00I still want them to trade Teahen for Felix Pie, i...I still want them to trade Teahen for Felix Pie, if indeed he's attainable. Put him in CF, move Crisp to RF and DeJesus to LF: instantly, Greinke and Meche and Bannister are backed up by perhaps the best defensive outfield in the bigs, and Pie _might_ translate his minor league hitting numbers and become a hitting asset as well, which Jose Guillen will not be. Pay a good chunk of Guillen's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-24207270535597241842008-11-19T21:14:00.000-06:002008-11-19T21:14:00.000-06:00If we traded Teahen for Pie and Cedeno, drop Gathr...If we traded Teahen for Pie and Cedeno, drop Gathright, let Pie really learn at the major league level under Crisp (see Ellsbury), buyout Crisp at the end of next season and let Pie be our CF the next few years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-41407861103014800302008-11-19T21:07:00.000-06:002008-11-19T21:07:00.000-06:00Dead weight on one team (especially the BloSox) do...Dead weight on one team (especially the BloSox) doesn't necessarily make someone a dead weight on another (especially the Royals).<BR/><BR/>I also don't agree that he was dead weight over there. He was just simply getting pushed out by younger talent. Hopefully, the same will happen here at some point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-51567502772495290142008-11-19T20:18:00.000-06:002008-11-19T20:18:00.000-06:00I don't like this trade at all. First, is GMDM tr...I don't like this trade at all. First, is GMDM trying to corner the market on the lowest OPS's in MLB? Seriously. Crisp's OPS for the last 3 years are .702, .712, and .751. Erhlp. Sorry, I just threw up a little in my mouth. And he only has 2 years left, at a total of $13.75 mil? Seriously folks, Boston has wanted to unload...er...deal him for over a year now with Jacoby Ellsbury on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-25933630964464250412008-11-19T16:46:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:46:00.000-06:00Trading a middle reliever for a quality position p...Trading a middle reliever for a quality position player is always a good thing. The only thing I'm concerned about is that we only get Crisp for two years.<BR/><BR/>I think they have some young arms in their system they can move up to their bullpen. There's always the Rule 5 draft as well (see Soria, Joakim.)<BR/><BR/>Looking at Crisp's numbers, he seems quite a bit like Willie Wilson, though Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12275276577448843877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-60465869593839684312008-11-19T16:09:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:09:00.000-06:00My ideal lineup:DeJesus -- LFCrisp -- CFKK -- DH (...My ideal lineup:<BR/><BR/>DeJesus -- LF<BR/>Crisp -- CF<BR/>KK -- DH (Eventually)<BR/>Guillen -- RF<BR/>Jacobs -- 1B<BR/>Aviles -- SS<BR/>Fontenot -- 2B<BR/>Gordon -- 3B<BR/>Buck/Olivo -- CJimmy Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00462860799687892350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-33692277230735416782008-11-19T16:05:00.000-06:002008-11-19T16:05:00.000-06:00There's no room for Teahen here. Log-jam at f...There's no room for Teahen here. Log-jam at first & outfield and he'd only be able to be a stop-gap in the event that Gorden went down again. It's clear that he will be traded in short order. Let's send him to the Cubbies for Fontenot & a middle reliever to help fill the hole that has been created with Nunez & Ramirez, go out & grab Horatio Ramirez & we Jimmy Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00462860799687892350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-33510427929635880272008-11-19T15:51:00.000-06:002008-11-19T15:51:00.000-06:00Anonymous at 3:16pm said it...Crisp ostensibly pla...Anonymous at 3:16pm said it...Crisp ostensibly plays 9 innings per game, 162 games per year. Ramirez plays maybe 100 innings.<BR/><BR/>And Crisp: an older Joey Gathright he ain't. This guy can actually hit.<BR/><BR/>And he won't be hitting ninth, ever. We are NOT the Red Sox, man.Shelbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514566296885869946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-6901185184323584952008-11-19T15:16:00.000-06:002008-11-19T15:16:00.000-06:00A RamRam-for-Coco trade sounds more like two gay s...A RamRam-for-Coco trade sounds more like two gay stripclubs trading talent rather than two MLB clubs. Seriously, it's great for KC. Ramirez was nasty but doesn't have a long-term track record of reliability. Niether does Crisp but assuming they both played to their potential, a good defensive CF and speedy leadoff hitter will impact the team so much more than a great middle reliever. No Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com