tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post797918708913210941..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: More On The Greinke Trade.Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-89499597048272245062011-01-11T18:16:32.496-06:002011-01-11T18:16:32.496-06:00I agree bbxpert. Just because a guy could bring a...I agree bbxpert. Just because a guy could bring a good haul of prospects doesn't mean he should be traded. Remember, these are "prospects," guys who haven't proven anything yet. Soria is already a proven commodity on a VERY team friendly deal. And his contract runs through 2014, and we should hopefully be competitive in both 2013 and 2014. I'd hate to get there and missMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-88718623473589570232011-01-11T18:01:25.979-06:002011-01-11T18:01:25.979-06:00The Greinke trade made sense, but why would you wa...The Greinke trade made sense, but why would you want to trade Soria? The best closer in the game and inexpensive. You can't continually trade for prospects. You have to keep some guys that are already there.bbxperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050659179097039635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-70779050394787650072011-01-11T14:31:53.993-06:002011-01-11T14:31:53.993-06:00It is being reported that Moore has turned down a ...It is being reported that Moore has turned down a trade of Soria for Jesus Montero and Eduardo Nunez from the Yankees. This trade would make sense to me and I'd like to see it happen. What say you, Rany?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01588975114634872113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-43667085946908108252011-01-08T01:55:19.930-06:002011-01-08T01:55:19.930-06:00reaction to the haul Tampa Bay got from the Cubs f...reaction to the haul Tampa Bay got from the Cubs for Matt Garza compared to what the Royals got for Greinke ?Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529960966125698328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-59624872517794795772011-01-06T14:24:24.745-06:002011-01-06T14:24:24.745-06:00Not saying we'd trade him this winter or even ...Not saying we'd trade him this winter or even this year's trade deadline. However, in another year or two, when he's down to one-two years remaining on his deal, I could see us shopping him around to a contender. Seems to me that Pavano would want to go to a contender. Why not just save our money these next couple years and be able to actually sign some of our home-grown talent to Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-9324492480761764722011-01-06T11:38:55.088-06:002011-01-06T11:38:55.088-06:00If we signed Pavano, it would most likely be a 3 y...If we signed Pavano, it would most likely be a 3 year deal, meaning he most likely wouldn't be traded this winter. He'd be under contract through 2013, so he'd really just be a stopgap until all the young ones are ready. Not a bad stopgap either, although probably costly (I'd guess 24-27 mill over the 3 years). I'd be on the fence if they went through with it.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-9723574237247279622011-01-06T08:40:53.505-06:002011-01-06T08:40:53.505-06:00Not sure why we'd be interested in Pavano othe...Not sure why we'd be interested in Pavano other than to trade him for prospects at the deadline. That said, we certainly have the $ to pay him now that Greinke and Guillen are off the books. Speaking of, next year, when we no longer have Meche's contract, are we going to be able to supplement our young roster with some solid veterans (SP? RP? C?). Who might we look at?Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-47863433068460050062011-01-05T20:23:03.998-06:002011-01-05T20:23:03.998-06:00There is a new rumor that they are also looking at...There is a new rumor that they are also looking at Carl Pavano.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-26314617865435740192011-01-05T17:34:55.477-06:002011-01-05T17:34:55.477-06:00My guess is right now that Hochevar, Mazzaro, and ...My guess is right now that Hochevar, Mazzaro, and Davies are rotation locks. I am hoping that the other 2 spots are wide open and that a couple of the young guys will step in and grab the job. I want these guys to make it tough for the Royals to send them down.bbxperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050659179097039635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-65469470924631079102011-01-05T16:25:26.571-06:002011-01-05T16:25:26.571-06:00Forgot we just signed Zach Miner to a minor league...Forgot we just signed Zach Miner to a minor league deal. Any chance he's the 5th man in the rote?Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-72264586615846215752011-01-05T14:29:29.752-06:002011-01-05T14:29:29.752-06:00Can we also address the Royals rotation heading in...Can we also address the Royals rotation heading into 2011? Hochevar, Davies, Mazzaro and O'Sullivan, but who else? I've heard Danny Duffy might get a shot. I've heard Everett Teaford is a possibility. What about the possibility of moving Tejada back to the rotation? He looked good two years ago. Jerry Crasnick reported today that the Royals are in on Jeff Francis. I know he didn'tGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-50655646114345254382011-01-04T19:54:57.250-06:002011-01-04T19:54:57.250-06:00Need....another......post.....
Going......insane....Need....another......post.....<br /><br />Going......insane......Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-84529290444570893422010-12-30T13:09:57.911-06:002010-12-30T13:09:57.911-06:00I was meaning 2012. Many people are talking about ...I was meaning 2012. Many people are talking about 2012 like it is a foregone conclusion that we make the playoffs. Many smart people are saying that...I think it's too much to ask for. We'll be vastly improved by the sheer number of talented youth coming up, but my mind won't let my hope get higher than .500. 2012 is the next step and that step is graduation. I meant to put compete inAntonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-85973045110590125352010-12-30T11:18:57.389-06:002010-12-30T11:18:57.389-06:00Antonio-We don't need to hit on a huge number ...Antonio-We don't need to hit on a huge number of these prospects. We have a bunch of big time prospects now, so we actually can hit on less than usual and still be competitive in a few years. I do agree that 2012 may not be the year of contention. I think 2012 will be a very interesting year with the possibility of being good, if a few of these prospects light the world on fire right away.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-36348372672116013132010-12-30T11:13:31.719-06:002010-12-30T11:13:31.719-06:00q-Most people credit the Rangers trade of Mark Tei...q-Most people credit the Rangers trade of Mark Teixiera for helping them make the World Series this year. The Minnesota Twins traded Johan Santana for scraps, but that still hasn't stopped them from contending every year. <br /><br />I don't think we're getting scraps, and I don't think we'll end up with as good a deal as Texas got either. I think we'll end up with 2 Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-50315084674906833542010-12-30T01:18:55.548-06:002010-12-30T01:18:55.548-06:00Love the discussion in the comments. I tend to agr...Love the discussion in the comments. I tend to agree with the notion that the prospects look promising. My problem is that I still can't get over the premise that he "had to be traded". This is the weakest part of the post in my opinion Rany. All I have seen is quotes about how Zack was unhappy. Well I was unhappy too watching the team. Except when I was able to watch him pitch. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960940532857850152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-44956010596420314662010-12-29T19:52:22.841-06:002010-12-29T19:52:22.841-06:00You would have thought I would have remembered Chr...You would have thought I would have remembered Christmas was not as big a deal at your house after throughly enjoying reading your "Abd el-Kader and the Massacre of Damascus." Post. <br /><br />In my defense Christmas is still a busy sports day for a sports fan to be researching & typing versus watching :-) <br /><br />I would like your take on the suggestion thta just Nefali Perez Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529960966125698328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-33146065569796428642010-12-29T15:03:11.938-06:002010-12-29T15:03:11.938-06:00Realistically, we're not going to be competiti...Realistically, we're not going to be competitive until 2013 in the best-case scenario. Soria's only under contract until 2014. By then, who knows, Jeremy Jeffres could be the stopper of the future. Otherwise, we have a stable of live arms in the minors that is sure to produce viable bullpen options. If we can deal Soria now for a blue-chip prospect like Montero, why not do the deal? Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-36486631329982963902010-12-29T14:53:02.220-06:002010-12-29T14:53:02.220-06:00We do realize that for the Royals to compete, they...We do realize that for the Royals to compete, they will need to not only hit on a huge number of these prospects but also have them come out of the gate running like a flock of RoYs, right..? For me, 2012 is about a mass exodus of graduating players in...garbage players out. Not to mention the inevitable leash Yosty will put on them initially. Seems to me like fans are expecting them all to postAntonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-1968566153985262322010-12-29T11:38:05.112-06:002010-12-29T11:38:05.112-06:00If the Royals are serious about competing in 2012,...If the Royals are serious about competing in 2012, then trading Soria is a bad move. If they're in contention then, having one of the best closers in baseball under team control through 2014--on a friendly contract--would be quite helpful.<br /><br />There's no need to trade him now and make a run at the '62 Mets in 2011 and then blowing the AL Central in '13 because you blew a Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025084603769153259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66267418567459255552010-12-29T08:55:11.018-06:002010-12-29T08:55:11.018-06:00Rany - can we get a post (when you get a second) a...Rany - can we get a post (when you get a second) about the pro's/con's of dealing the Mexicutioner? Is now the time to move him with multiple teams looking for bullpen help? MLB Trade Rumors suggests the Yankees offered us Jesus Montero for him last July. Would Montero be enough, in your mind, to get a deal done? Who are some other pieces that the Royals might be interested in from other Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-9700164933729804322010-12-29T07:25:01.163-06:002010-12-29T07:25:01.163-06:00@ Antonio- Right on target again. It's simple...@ Antonio- Right on target again. It's simple to look back at the Teix trade and knowing now how the players work out to down grade it. But when comparing the trades, we have to look at the perceived value because at this point that is all we have on the Greinke deal.<br /><br />As said in my previous response, I have been spending time evaluating each guy for his strengths/weaknesses. I ScottMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12688904833558568113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-81788441678399425702010-12-28T21:05:52.582-06:002010-12-28T21:05:52.582-06:00Yost was asked a question by a reporter, that'...Yost was asked a question by a reporter, that's why he had to say something. And all he really said was that they (Cain and Melky) would battle for the starting spot. I just don't see the harm in that. Now, if Cabrera is starting in center over a healthy Cain come April, then yes, I would be upset. Unless, of course, Melky came to camp in shape and had a great spring. But I'd putMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-76611550714920908772010-12-28T20:45:47.333-06:002010-12-28T20:45:47.333-06:00@ Nathan
If you are comparing a trade just made t...@ Nathan<br /><br />If you are comparing a trade just made to a trade made X years ago, you have to go on perception at the time. It's not exactly fair to compare the potential of the KC-MIL deal to the attrition of the Tex-Atl deal. The Rangers didn't trade Teix for a starting shortstop and a closer even though that's what they got. And the Royals traded Greinke for a starting Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-50216663819106113932010-12-28T03:17:57.559-06:002010-12-28T03:17:57.559-06:00I'd take Blanco/Maier over Melky. Some free ag...I'd take Blanco/Maier over Melky. Some free agents you promise certain things to. The ones the Royals sign, you simply do not. So what if we didn't sign Melky. It wouldn't make any noticeable difference.<br /><br /><br />My point is why does Yost have to say anything? My point is how many times have we seen the Royals put a lot more emphasis on experience than what it deserves? I&#Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.com