tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post6402394556999486913..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: For Want Of A Pitcher: Jason Vargas?Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-88142249212340418102013-12-06T23:41:36.108-06:002013-12-06T23:41:36.108-06:00KK and Moose have the same OPS+
Moose is the bett...KK and Moose have the same OPS+<br /><br />Moose is the better over all player, by WAR, which is a better stat, but OPS+ is the simplest advanced stat that matters, so it's no small thing. The only difference between the two is that Moose gets a chance and KK not much of one.Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-86535743864819155832013-11-30T13:19:32.467-06:002013-11-30T13:19:32.467-06:00Is it a great signing? No. But in my opinion anyti...Is it a great signing? No. But in my opinion anytime you can get a guy that consistently throws about 200 innings of league average baseball for fair market value its not a bad thing.Michael S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05540103973535229550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-12581979073362275162013-11-30T10:37:32.992-06:002013-11-30T10:37:32.992-06:00The other commenters have already hit the nail on ...The other commenters have already hit the nail on the head: Vargas was a solid signing because the Royals already have their high-risk high-reward pitchers with Duffy, Ventura and Zimmer.<br /><br />Rany has written a lot of interesting articles over the years, but he is wrong just as often as he is right. Let's not forget that Rany told us for years how awesome Kila Ka'aihue would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-57396683068006847672013-11-29T17:28:44.372-06:002013-11-29T17:28:44.372-06:00Nolasco has been about a +3 pitcher for his career...Nolasco has been about a +3 pitcher for his career, Vargas has been about a +2. At $5 million/WAR, Nolasco has been almost exactly $4 million/year more valuable than Vargas. But of course they are not the same pitcher, with Nolasco being a bit more of a strikeout guy, and of course with Nolasco's career exclusively in the NL and Vargas exclusively in the AL. It does not appear that the twmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09435570180342463224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-36123720587530351422013-11-29T09:54:19.457-06:002013-11-29T09:54:19.457-06:00Twins just signed Ricky Nolasco to a 4 year, 49 mi...Twins just signed Ricky Nolasco to a 4 year, 49 million dollar deal. Nolasco and Vargas are both 31, and got the same number of years. Nolasco is a better pitcher, but is he $4 million more a year better? <br /><br />This signing shows me that the Royals valued Vargas just about right. Michael S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05540103973535229550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-71626045199429298382013-11-28T03:57:01.174-06:002013-11-28T03:57:01.174-06:00Rany, many thanks for another year of wonderful ar...Rany, many thanks for another year of wonderful articles.<br /><br />Steve NSteve Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05801257951142926868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-34622830269990096292013-11-25T12:59:07.065-06:002013-11-25T12:59:07.065-06:00To answer S. O'Brien's question of who wou...To answer S. O'Brien's question of who would I want to go late into ball games Chen or Vargas? Or, would I want them to exit after 5 or 6 innings and go to the best bull pen in baseball. My answer is that the best bull pen in baseball might have to come in after the 5th inning when Duffy pitches. So, I might have to consider the possibility that Chen or Vargas will have to pitch deep Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10660193450926633747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-9914515716340000132013-11-24T16:09:53.428-06:002013-11-24T16:09:53.428-06:00Does the $88m figure include Santana's #?Does the $88m figure include Santana's #?<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04560021622846462963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-85891907118079199022013-11-24T14:07:29.218-06:002013-11-24T14:07:29.218-06:00Looking at just a Starter v. Starter breakdown usi...Looking at just a Starter v. Starter breakdown using 2011-2013 stats<br /><br />Chen<br />74 GS, 434 IP, 6.03 K/9, 2.49 BB/9, 1.26 HR/9, .281 BAbip<br />4.31 ERA, 4.49 FIP, 4.69 xFIP, 5.2 WAR<br /><br />Vargas<br />89 GS, 568 IP, 6.03 K/9, 2.53 BB/9, 1.17 HR/9, .281 BAbip<br />4.04 ERA, 4.32 FIP, 4.41 xFIP, 4.6 WAR<br /><br />After accounting for the HR/9 difference one would expect from a Sea/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02159593902620801984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-74016271135108911262013-11-24T07:34:30.015-06:002013-11-24T07:34:30.015-06:00Rany, you're nothing more than a whiney little...Rany, you're nothing more than a whiney little $#!%^*. You always have been and you always will be. Do yourself a favor and just stop writing. You are an arrogant moron and that has to be one of the worst combinations possible.Wiking44https://www.blogger.com/profile/03299097632315324761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-87217783958774657132013-11-24T03:09:57.736-06:002013-11-24T03:09:57.736-06:00In all likelihood, if they put Hochevar back into ...In all likelihood, if they put Hochevar back into the rotation, he'll go back to being the same replacement-level pitcher that he was before. When a starter transitions to relief and then goes back, it typically only works if the guy had been a quality starter before, like John Smoltz was. For every C.J. Wilson, there are a dozen Joba Chamberlains.<br /><br />Hochevar and Wade Davis are good Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025084603769153259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-33220793935734667922013-11-23T18:33:14.977-06:002013-11-23T18:33:14.977-06:00I'm hearing from Bob Dutton, and then straight...I'm hearing from Bob Dutton, and then straight from Dayton Moore, the idea that Luke Hochevar is being considered for the 2014 rotation.<br /><br />Luke was flat out awesome in 2013. ERA, S0/BB, S0/9, WHIP were all off the charts.<br /><br />Is there any chance Hochevar somehow harnesses success in the bullpen and translates it into success in the rotation? Can he go full throttle for 6 David W. Lowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057799125396266586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-31411383077789992872013-11-23T18:27:11.636-06:002013-11-23T18:27:11.636-06:00Difference between Chen money and Vargas money is ...Difference between Chen money and Vargas money is not the same as ability to eat innings. Chen wins, especially since he seems to be a great clubhouse influncee. Vargas/Chen thing would not be worth mentioning except that Royals chose to save a few pennies at catcher in dropping Kottaras, yet he is an ideal backup for Salvy. Come on, Moore!Big Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02123444230384389858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-60776606405429817662013-11-23T14:58:36.582-06:002013-11-23T14:58:36.582-06:00The problem with the Bruce Chen comparison is that...The problem with the Bruce Chen comparison is that the last time Chen through 191 innings, his ERA was 5.07. Chen cannot throw the same innings with the same effectiveness as Vargas. Hence the 4/32 contract. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10660193450926633747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-81366924654864238502013-11-23T14:56:19.442-06:002013-11-23T14:56:19.442-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10660193450926633747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-86208376469097653582013-11-23T11:03:32.624-06:002013-11-23T11:03:32.624-06:00Really well put and argued (tip of the cap to MLB ...Really well put and argued (tip of the cap to MLB Trade Rumors for sending folks here)<br /><br />As a Padres fan-we could make a similar argument for why the Josh Johnson signing feels like the FO might actually know what it's doing-Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09347618648781461416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-69682493393651797652013-11-23T09:03:59.206-06:002013-11-23T09:03:59.206-06:00I read that the Royals are going pretty hard after...I read that the Royals are going pretty hard after Beltran. One of my favorite players ever. What is the thinking on his defense these days? He was once a good CF. Leg problems have robbed him of a step....or more. Have the results in right been bad?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10816181608902411803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-59701280285717704182013-11-23T08:17:33.925-06:002013-11-23T08:17:33.925-06:00Moore's track record does make me a little ner...Moore's track record does make me a little nervous. Guthrie, Santana, Paulino, Chen show his ability to recognize scrap heap talent. Sanchez and Davis show that it's not that easy. And another plus to Chen is that we know he can come out of the bullpen if he struggles a a starter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14530090166299351849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-87421634094907724352013-11-22T21:16:09.261-06:002013-11-22T21:16:09.261-06:00Rany would hate any signing ever..
Rany would hate any signing ever..<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13821334149177201380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-67140997396885335212013-11-22T20:33:52.494-06:002013-11-22T20:33:52.494-06:00Zimmer, Duffy, and Ventura are the high reward pit...Zimmer, Duffy, and Ventura are the high reward pitchers. When you were comparing Chen and Vargas you missed one thing that stands out between the 2. It is not MPH, SO, or BB. Innings. Vargas averaged 190 innings the last 4 years and Chen around 150 innings. That is why Vargas is paid more. If Chen could be counted on for that many innings you would not be able to get him for what you mentioned.ARWINKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00989204806463068171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-32562732207197143012013-11-22T18:27:24.913-06:002013-11-22T18:27:24.913-06:00Thanks for ruining my day, Rany. I am so depressed...Thanks for ruining my day, Rany. I am so depressed now I need chocolate. Curtis Burtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652822073556432816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-24986206665426891832013-11-22T17:08:47.031-06:002013-11-22T17:08:47.031-06:00Agree (as usual it seems) with your assessment.
1)...Agree (as usual it seems) with your assessment.<br />1) Total Meh. Lot of arms with greater upside to "hope" for a #4 starter becoming a #2 starter. <br />2) Chen + offense > Vargas better for budget (despite the apprehension that Chen as a starter evokes).<br />3) What did Kottras do to deserve the boot? Makes me curious what secrets the Pena family has requiring the hush money Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02825534124668228133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-11273227196105537112013-11-22T14:39:26.231-06:002013-11-22T14:39:26.231-06:00"There’s ... very little chance that he’ll be..."There’s ... very little chance that he’ll be underpaid." Unless, as everyone predicts, there is a significant escalation in free agent costs this year and thereafter. Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01943654815773607291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-42187508547182730862013-11-22T10:37:55.021-06:002013-11-22T10:37:55.021-06:00I agree that for what they just accomplished, they...I agree that for what they just accomplished, they should and could have just re-signed Chen for less money and years. But Tim Hudson, at this stage of his career, is the right-handed version of Vargas or Chen, only he will cost more because he used to be better than that. Look at his 2013: injury-prone pitcher with a 3.97 ERA and an ERA+ of 97.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025084603769153259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-29567293992281582572013-11-22T07:34:03.283-06:002013-11-22T07:34:03.283-06:00I think you have things backward. The Royals defi...I think you have things backward. The Royals definitely need a "sure-thing", "inning-eating" pitcher right now. The high-risk, high-reward pitchers are already on the 40-man roster: Zimmer, Ventura, Duffy, etc.<br /><br />Now what happens when Duffy has a relapse in the spring (almost certain given the history of those with "Tommy John" surgery), and Zimmer and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com