tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post4954429298267608596..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: Bullpen Redux.Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66973799428921829492010-04-28T12:23:58.459-05:002010-04-28T12:23:58.459-05:00While I want to see situation 4 sooner rather than...While I want to see situation 4 sooner rather than later, Tuesday's game was situation 2 or 3, yet Soria wasn't used. The Royals' good starters + terrible bullpen + good closer may be the perfect storm for an active sabr fanbase to actually prod the mgmt to buck convention and use Soria as a hybrid fireman/closer.Ben Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-27934378890992533942010-04-28T11:16:46.506-05:002010-04-28T11:16:46.506-05:00Dayton Moore needs a pair of cement overshoes, alo...Dayton Moore needs a pair of cement overshoes, along with his sorry excuse for a bullpen!Royals Mafianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-7469177329459110982010-04-28T10:21:43.241-05:002010-04-28T10:21:43.241-05:00I believe these numbers are correct regarding Grei...I believe these numbers are correct regarding Greinke:<br /><br />Greinke: 31.2 IP, 9 ER, 2.56 ERA<br /><br />Bullpen when Greinke pitches:<br />14.1 IP, 20 ER, 12.56 ERA<br /><br />In 31.2 innings this year, the Royals have had 4 runs or more in exactly 1 inning when Zack has been in the game. That was Opening Day.<br />It would be interesting to know how Greinke's run support has been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-45618091472505179992010-04-28T09:39:32.920-05:002010-04-28T09:39:32.920-05:00I know we won't get the Quiz model overnight h...I know we won't get the Quiz model overnight here in KC. But i was sad to see this morning (after the Seattle debacle blew another Greinke win) that Soria has pitched in 7 games, while Tejada, Farnsworth, Parrish and Hughes have all been in more (10 for Tejada, 11 for Hughes!). Even if we cannot get the way pitchers are treated altered, there must be SOME way we can ensure that our best Jacob G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10477754845480009252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-82180591087672551822010-04-27T22:02:44.727-05:002010-04-27T22:02:44.727-05:00In my utopian model, there'd be no distinguish...In my utopian model, there'd be no distinguishing between starters, relievers, closers, stoppers, etc. In a close game, I'd run out the best pitcher available, period. If it meant occaisionally running guys up from Omaha when needed, so be it. In other words, win today, worry about tomorrow tomorrow!kpellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07192049546769963302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-5108463869419351932010-04-27T19:16:06.125-05:002010-04-27T19:16:06.125-05:00I wonder if Dayton MORON still wishes he had Tony ...I wonder if Dayton MORON still wishes he had Tony Pena Jr. around? All he's done is put up an 0.91 ERA in Triple-A so far. MORON figured out Pena should be a pitcher, and then let him walk as soon as he proved he could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-79488419423890238332010-04-27T13:14:17.896-05:002010-04-27T13:14:17.896-05:00"I’m not even saying that they’re wasting the..."I’m not even saying that they’re wasting their time, because they’re not."<br /><br />Stop using the comma before the subordinating conjunction "because."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-8120801155390730092010-04-27T01:46:21.872-05:002010-04-27T01:46:21.872-05:00With regards to the Eckersley method, what effect ...With regards to the Eckersley method, what effect would repeatedly warming up have on Soria? Say Luke Hochevar has a one run lead in the 6th, and there are no outs with men on first and second with Damon, Ordonez, and Cabrera coming up. Naturally, you start getting Soria warm. But then pretend Luke gets Damon to pop up and then Ordonez grounds in to a double play. What do you do with Soria, Evan H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-59002084119896849052010-04-27T01:13:02.673-05:002010-04-27T01:13:02.673-05:00Rany,
I hope you gave Jeff Passan the OK to basic...Rany,<br /><br />I hope you gave Jeff Passan the OK to basically rewrite your post from a Twins perspective!<br /><br />http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AupvxQK2ci7jRoiRjvEgpeERvLYF?slug=jp-relievers042610Michaelhttp://sports.yahoo.com/mlbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-7323871406886554102010-04-26T21:49:44.917-05:002010-04-26T21:49:44.917-05:00To Anon @ 2:21:
The various Little League Basebal...To Anon @ 2:21:<br /><br />The various Little League Baseball associations and leagues of the greater Kansas City area insist on a certain level of quality of play. Kansas City Little League pitchers must show a certain level of competence in order to be allowed to pitch. No pitcher on the staff of the Kansas City Royals other than Joakim Soria meets the standards of Kansas City Little League, asKansas City Little Leaguehttp://www.raytown.k12.mo.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-24674024368981561512010-04-26T21:35:10.153-05:002010-04-26T21:35:10.153-05:00Also, the "escape" would have to be in a...Also, the "escape" would have to be in a situation where your team is either leading or trailing by 2 runs or less. You might also consider giving an escape if a reliever is brought into a bases loaded situation with 1 out or less, and gives up only one run.JohnnyV13@aol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66968865448988091332010-04-26T21:21:33.915-05:002010-04-26T21:21:33.915-05:00Rany, if one reason modern managers use relievers ...Rany, if one reason modern managers use relievers incorrectly is the save statistic, maybe we shoulld invent a new statistic. The "hold" isn't sufficient for our purpose. What we need is something called the "escape". A reliever would get an escape if he is brought in the seventh or later with two or more men on base and gets out of the inning without allowing a run. If JohnnyV13@aol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-10959196350525823812010-04-26T14:21:35.536-05:002010-04-26T14:21:35.536-05:00Can we just take all the relievers except for Sori...Can we just take all the relievers except for Soria and line them up in front of a firing squad? Or at least demote them all to the Kansas City Little League, where they might get someone out occasionally?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-45976524449681906902010-04-26T13:38:39.991-05:002010-04-26T13:38:39.991-05:00The best idea would be if Soria could wear disguis...The best idea would be if Soria could wear disguises and have something like three different jerseys. Then he could just come in for one or two outs multiple times throughout the game and thus earn holds and saves. It's a given that wherever you use Soria to "get out of jams" there would be a subsequent jam that would pop-up later in the game. However with the multiple uniform 28 years and countinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00549107719428865291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-75600016421476756672010-04-26T13:05:07.394-05:002010-04-26T13:05:07.394-05:00Rany, other than on Opening Day, I don't think...Rany, other than on Opening Day, I don't think the starters have been taken out too early at all. Trey's generally been letting them stay in until they get into trouble, and unfortunately, that hasn't been more than 6 innings, for the most part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-55397848253180719502010-04-26T11:35:01.659-05:002010-04-26T11:35:01.659-05:00Royals fans amaze me. Last season everyone was cr...Royals fans amaze me. Last season everyone was crying that hillman left starters in too long. This season they are crying they are not being left in long enough. Ugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-76723020347467972912010-04-26T10:56:46.517-05:002010-04-26T10:56:46.517-05:00Marmot, you're missing the point in regards to...Marmot, you're missing the point in regards to Chris Hayes. The point is this: Hayes can certainly do no worse than the retreads that we already know SUCK. At least there's a CHANCE that Hayes will be productive. We already know that guys like Mendoza WON'T.Wabbitkillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-25363033255548052002010-04-26T10:51:48.224-05:002010-04-26T10:51:48.224-05:00I'm surprised no mention of Bryan Bullington a...I'm surprised no mention of Bryan Bullington as a possible call up???<br /><br />Greggsmith601https://www.blogger.com/profile/04030777181117556234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-74592175189786011582010-04-26T09:37:00.924-05:002010-04-26T09:37:00.924-05:00"By all means, keep reminding the Royals ther..."By all means, keep reminding the Royals there is a better way to use Soria"<br /><br />Uh - yeah. Move him into the rotation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-32840806714344804462010-04-26T08:22:59.044-05:002010-04-26T08:22:59.044-05:00Rany, I think you missed a great example of a mana...Rany, I think you missed a great example of a manager doing exactly what we would like to see Hillman doing (and it's even recent too!). In 2008, Joe Maddon used Troy Percival in traditional "closer" situations (i.e. in the 9th with a 2 or 3 run lead) and he racked up nearly 30 saves. However, his best reliever was either J.P. Howell (thank god we got Gaithright for him!) or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-4936622052890149002010-04-26T08:16:30.971-05:002010-04-26T08:16:30.971-05:00Blayne....why not add the hold incentive to ALL th...Blayne....why not add the hold incentive to ALL the bullpen guys and not just Soria?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-85974688507567351532010-04-26T07:49:26.023-05:002010-04-26T07:49:26.023-05:00I can almost gaurentee that every single fan that ...I can almost gaurentee that every single fan that want the Royals to use Soria in the 6th or 7th will bitch and moan at Hillman if the next pitcher gives up the game....."Hillman brought Soria in way too early, he's a complete moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-67999770045290406852010-04-26T01:59:08.323-05:002010-04-26T01:59:08.323-05:00I think Blayne's idea has potential. If a mana...I think Blayne's idea has potential. If a manager set things up like that, I suspect a reliever would respond well, and it would probably be worth several wins over the course of the year. It's an innovative compromise that could work out well for everyone, if ever proposed.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-63325664696474204562010-04-25T22:50:09.169-05:002010-04-25T22:50:09.169-05:00Two things come to mind after having read your pas...Two things come to mind after having read your past two columns (well, I read ALL your posts, but I'm commenting on the past two):<br /><br />--First, as far as the Quisenberry Model for a closer, is it really fair to use Dan Quisenberry as an example of what could be employed by someone like Joakim Soria? The reason I ask this is the simple fact that Quisenberry's delivery was of the Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-88087660329940775782010-04-25T22:18:04.818-05:002010-04-25T22:18:04.818-05:00On another topic, I read in the Star today that Go...On another topic, I read in the Star today that Gordon is likely headed back to Omaha once the immortal Chris Getz comes off the DL. I am so baffled. Assuming Gordon is healthy, why are the Royals going to screw around with one of the few potential impact players they have????? Yes, Gordon has been a disappointment, but the time to find out what he could still be is this season. And you won'tBob McWilliamsnoreply@blogger.com