tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post3631528798749175444..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: Double-A Scouting Report.Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-4955088669767528292011-07-15T21:40:30.985-05:002011-07-15T21:40:30.985-05:00I was all about Porcello/Wieters but can't exa...I was all about Porcello/Wieters but can't exactly complain about Moose yet. The pre-Moore years I lay on the Glass Family waay before I lay it on Baird's ineptness.Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66276880842116603232011-07-15T11:10:48.196-05:002011-07-15T11:10:48.196-05:00Antonio,
Bad on me, I was thinking Verlander was a...Antonio,<br />Bad on me, I was thinking Verlander was a later pick, like Porcello was. My Bad. But the point remains, the Royals passed on better players in the draft for years due to signablility issues. That will haunt them for a while.K.C.Tigerfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09382894111630998821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-74784160707251493762011-07-14T19:37:34.768-05:002011-07-14T19:37:34.768-05:00Only Matt Bush went ahead of Verlander, who went 1...Only Matt Bush went ahead of Verlander, who went 1/2 in '04. The Royals draftee? Some fat guy named Butler, who went 1/14. I'd rather have Verlander, but it's close enough that it's made up in the difference in the draft. I guess the Royals shied away from a guy they never had a chance to avoid.Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-46073324720669681462011-07-14T14:30:11.115-05:002011-07-14T14:30:11.115-05:00In one year the Royals farm system went from medio...In one year the Royals farm system went from mediocre to stellar. Then, in one more year, it apparently went back to mediocre. Forgive me if I sit back and wait and see. This is why you shouldn't get too excited about rankings in the first place. <br /><br />Look at the Tigers. They drafted Verlander because they were willing to pay above slot at a time when many teams, especially the K.C.Tigerfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09382894111630998821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-61689485383480414782011-07-14T08:46:44.005-05:002011-07-14T08:46:44.005-05:00See Mr. Jones, I think the problem is you and I ha...See Mr. Jones, I think the problem is you and I have differing opinions of what "stars" are. Apparently, you think slightly above average makes you a star. Granted, slightly above average players on the Royals makes them the teams star. <br /><br />For me, they have to be way above average to be a star. On the Twins, I'd put Mauer, Morneau, and Joe Nathan (when fully healthy) inMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-78208725921495386142011-07-13T20:40:01.441-05:002011-07-13T20:40:01.441-05:00Giavotella 2B, C.Robinson 1B/DH, Lough OF, Cain CF...Giavotella 2B, C.Robinson 1B/DH, Lough OF, Cain CF, Falu Utl are all playing well in AAA. Monty has made I believe 3 great start in a row, and is back on his original workout program. That's a pretty good list in AAA.<br /><br />Francis, Odorizzi, and Navarro just got promoted to AA, so that can't be a bad thing. Myers and Colon started off slow, but have been coming along nicely. Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404885023695750077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-27551838171960162242011-07-13T20:31:53.487-05:002011-07-13T20:31:53.487-05:00In two years if one of Monty, Duffy, Lamb, Dwyer, ...In two years if one of Monty, Duffy, Lamb, Dwyer, Odorizzi aren't better than Pavano's 4.32 career ERA, I might just quit the Royals. There is an ace in that group, and a #3. If the Royals can find a #2 in FA, and/or fill in with Hochevar, Paulino, SOS, Mazzaro, or Crow.<br /><br />If one of Moustakas, Hosmer, or Myers isn't hitting better than Cuddyer's careeer 796 OPS, I will Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404885023695750077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-21118976187234921602011-07-12T21:45:12.209-05:002011-07-12T21:45:12.209-05:00Yep, Antonio. That's the Pavano that that won...Yep, Antonio. That's the Pavano that that won 17 games last year with a 3.75 ERA, and 1.19 WHIP.<br /><br />Look, I didn't do an exhaustive analysis on this guys, but if I do, "I'm sure your going to be more than satisfied".<br /><br />But, feel free to convince me that what I perceive to be seeing when our division foes kick the crap out of us, is just a mirage. That the trjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15117872305919827724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-39072040760850283272011-07-12T21:13:54.940-05:002011-07-12T21:13:54.940-05:00Yep, the same Cuddyer that two years ago hit 32 ho...Yep, the same Cuddyer that two years ago hit 32 homers, slugged .520, and had an OPS of .862. You see anyone in our future that is projected to get to that level? I could have used Morneau as an example, but I didn't want to be acused of piling on. ;0)trjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15117872305919827724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-86263135310600682712011-07-12T17:56:41.828-05:002011-07-12T17:56:41.828-05:00Cuddyer??Cuddyer??Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-8261330274400120122011-07-12T13:31:27.765-05:002011-07-12T13:31:27.765-05:00I'm sorry. Pavano?I'm sorry. Pavano?Antonio.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08740155942210835984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-42076179285885123752011-07-12T12:23:57.938-05:002011-07-12T12:23:57.938-05:00Just look around the Central division, and our opp...Just look around the Central division, and our opponents all have at least a few stars, on the mound, in the field, or both. I don't see anything in our organization close to resembling a Maur, Cuddyer, Pavano, or a Nathan. And thats just the Twins! You can find several superstars on all the other teams as well.<br /><br />I just don't see DM developing anything remotely approaching trjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15117872305919827724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-73490642238333810592011-07-12T11:04:33.032-05:002011-07-12T11:04:33.032-05:00Average major leaguers aren't easy to come by ...Average major leaguers aren't easy to come by Ghost. If Giovatella and Cain turn out to be average, that will be a good thing, not a bad thing. They aren't expected to be our stars. That's what Hosmer, Moustakas, and Myers are expected to be. <br /><br />The one area that does concern me is starting pitching, but it's always a crapshoot. I still believe Monty will be at leastMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-8888475436497622402011-07-12T09:22:16.256-05:002011-07-12T09:22:16.256-05:00The Royals did graduate a number of guys to the ma...The Royals did graduate a number of guys to the majors, but that by definition weakens the farm system. There is no one above A ball who is having a better year than he had last year with the modest exception of Giavatella. Robinson is not a prospect in GMDM's eyes. None of the guys repeating AAA are really doing any better. <br /><br />Nobody at AA is doing much of anything. Yes, Myers has kcghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362423366736243156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-28703416618411657162011-07-11T15:20:24.349-05:002011-07-11T15:20:24.349-05:00Wow! There are a lot of alarmists out there. If yo...Wow! There are a lot of alarmists out there. If you have to be reminded, very few minor league prospects become even average major league players. So it follows that you need a lot of guys versus a few quality guys. The Royals used to seem to operate on the few sure major leaguer model (remember the days when the farm system consisted of Gordon, Butler and everybody else?) but now has a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-35630588893960629752011-07-11T14:51:14.077-05:002011-07-11T14:51:14.077-05:00Rany,
really neat to meet you at the Baseball Pro...Rany,<br /><br />really neat to meet you at the Baseball Prospectus event. I don't know where you find the time to work, take care of your family and still enjoy baseball so much. You are definitely a high energy individual. And in case you didn't hear during the night because so many people were stopping by to say hi, Kevin Goldstein put you in his top 5 nicest people he knows.Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529960966125698328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-62807579164299263912011-07-11T12:34:03.876-05:002011-07-11T12:34:03.876-05:00"It's starting to make me think the team ..."It's starting to make me think the team will never get to contention during the next few years."<br /><br />I share your concern, Stephen. Not only pitching, but our sure-fire phenom Hosmer is looking downright average, Moustakas looks inept (0.228 BA and RBIs in 25 games. Are you kidding me?), and Butler looks like he will be no more than a singles hitter with an occasional 2B ortrjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15117872305919827724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-39005409977618801932011-07-11T10:15:55.996-05:002011-07-11T10:15:55.996-05:00I disagree kcghost. The farm system has graduated...I disagree kcghost. The farm system has graduated a few of the top prospects, I don't count that as taking a step back. Isn't the point of a farm system to get them to the pros? Yes, if Moustkas, Hosmer, Duffy, Crow, Collins, and Coleman were still prospects the listings would look better. <br /><br />There are new faces that are showing up to replace injured and down year prospects.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404885023695750077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-59770153250891914352011-07-11T08:49:56.682-05:002011-07-11T08:49:56.682-05:00The always clever Royals drafted an SS without foo...The always clever Royals drafted an SS without foot speed?? Looks like one of those signability picks of years ago. <br /><br />You certainly get the feeling that the farm system has taken a step backward this year. Maybe that's because so many of them had mosnter years last year and that Hosmer, Moose, and Lamb aren't there to up the quality.kcghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06362423366736243156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-76169069131892518652011-07-10T09:24:03.851-05:002011-07-10T09:24:03.851-05:00Herrera had a few seasons of arm injuries, so movi...Herrera had a few seasons of arm injuries, so moving him to the pen makes a lot of sense. His arm plays better out of the pen anyways. Chapman was drafted as a reliever, so this scout saying he would be a "55" in the pros now, is REALLY good. Dwyer is a little disapointing, but it isn't the end of the world. If he ends up a reliever in KC, there is nothing wrong with that. Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404885023695750077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-64918618685073834432011-07-09T16:48:45.552-05:002011-07-09T16:48:45.552-05:00All those pitchers as relievers? Boy, the Royals ...All those pitchers as relievers? Boy, the Royals are going to need to find some starting pitching somewhere. Using people like Davies as a 6th starter is a mystery. It's starting to make me think the team will never get to contention during the next few years.Fast Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12318089894697640479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-56691261802658071332011-07-09T15:06:41.089-05:002011-07-09T15:06:41.089-05:00Its not just this dudes report, its many, many opi...Its not just this dudes report, its many, many opinions. I would never listen to just one scout from some other ML team. Colon has done nothing as a pro to suggest he is a regular MLB player. He hit well in college using the trampoline bats of old. If doesnt hit at least a little better he may not ever even get a cup of coffee.McGoldencrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14169498300024406960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-60364662805891802011-07-09T14:35:45.485-05:002011-07-09T14:35:45.485-05:00Let's not jump off the cliff yet. This is one ...Let's not jump off the cliff yet. This is one guy seeing a group of players ONCE. A friend of mine saw Hosmer play last summer over two days and he was horrid those days. How has that turned out so far?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08539831989596501354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-27915084359727648612011-07-09T14:27:47.654-05:002011-07-09T14:27:47.654-05:00Correction: The top two picks last year dont look ...Correction: The top two picks last year dont look great, but Michael Antonio is tearing it up and Chapman and Adams look like solid prospects. Eibner has been hitting better after a coma-like post injury return. We'll see.McGoldencrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14169498300024406960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-3804593002265591952011-07-09T14:05:06.115-05:002011-07-09T14:05:06.115-05:00Colon sucks. It was a terrible pick from the start...Colon sucks. It was a terrible pick from the start. He has excellent onbase skills but otherwise is a minorleague level player. He just cant hit at all. Admittedly hindsight, but they should have selected Drew Pomeranz, taken with the next pick by Clev. They got greedy. If the new BBCOR bats had been in place a year early, he and Eibner would have been exposed as the borderline prospects that McGoldencrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14169498300024406960noreply@blogger.com