tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post2996853986710608578..comments2023-11-02T08:28:08.286-05:00Comments on Rany on the Royals: Kansas City Chiefs' Playoff Odds, Week 14.Ranyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713226276377020284noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-19477313867219025092010-12-21T10:35:32.027-06:002010-12-21T10:35:32.027-06:00That was my thought too Nathan. Cameron is quite ...That was my thought too Nathan. Cameron is quite possibly the best defensive centerfielder of his generation. He's at least in the discussion!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-73607095251087010362010-12-20T18:38:52.987-06:002010-12-20T18:38:52.987-06:00Better defense than Cameron?Better defense than Cameron?Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-34029476570832851362010-12-20T14:57:49.888-06:002010-12-20T14:57:49.888-06:00The Cameron comparison was one I hadn't though...The Cameron comparison was one I hadn't thought of. I think he might have less power than that, but maybe somewhat higher walk rates. I'd take that. He might also map to somewhat better defense... I'd definitely take that. ON the down side - all those strikeouts could drown his productivity.Charles Wintershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17432483713151080830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-46696853001855257122010-12-20T09:16:08.885-06:002010-12-20T09:16:08.885-06:00I agree Charles. I heard Buster Olney on 810 this...I agree Charles. I heard Buster Olney on 810 this morning, and one scout told him Cain could be as good as Mike Cameron. Great fielder, lots of speed, and occasional pop. Oh, and lots of strikeouts. That's his big downside. But if he ends up anything like Cameron, I think we'll be ok!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-4051922419412962162010-12-20T07:49:22.334-06:002010-12-20T07:49:22.334-06:00Had to think for a bit on this trade...
Concerne...Had to think for a bit on this trade...<br /><br />Concerned that Escobar might never hit major league pitching. But that's the risk you take sometimes. Do I wish we had got more? YES. The major weakness here is that Escobar and Cain could be just barely above replacement level. Do I think that? NO. I think Cain probably maps out to about 4WAR in a few years (a better fielding DeJesusCharles Wintershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17432483713151080830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-45638307409289197172010-12-19T17:22:14.323-06:002010-12-19T17:22:14.323-06:00We did have more, from the Nationals, until Greink...We did have more, from the Nationals, until Greinke blocked it. Can't blame Moore for that. Both of those players (Escobar and Cain) are projected to improve offensively (both are only 24). Cain already was pretty good offensively last season, hitting .306/.348/.415. That, plus his stellar defense in center, and he's a pretty damn good player. He's not blue chip, but still a Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-84509304576962134632010-12-19T16:49:37.061-06:002010-12-19T16:49:37.061-06:00Michael, hate to say it, but was this deal 're...Michael, hate to say it, but was this deal 'really' about defense? The Phils/Rangers/Yanks all got into a huge bidding war for Cliff Lee who is 6-7 years older and about $10M more expensive per season. Greinke is JUST now entering his prime. You can't tell me we couldn't have gotten more. I find it interesting that Greinke 'asks' to be traded and then suddenly is. Sure, Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-52692011951084135862010-12-19T16:24:16.827-06:002010-12-19T16:24:16.827-06:00Nathan, you are correct, a lot depends on Escobar....Nathan, you are correct, a lot depends on Escobar. Is he the guy that Baseball America ranked as Milwaukee's top prospect before last season? Or is he the guy that hit .235 last year? I'm betting on the former, or at least somewhere in between. He has the tools and skills to hit much better than he showed last year, in my opinion. <br /><br />What I like best is that we upgraded Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-64488353018140541702010-12-19T14:55:45.604-06:002010-12-19T14:55:45.604-06:00Well, my concerns about Cassel were unfounded. Lo...Well, my concerns about Cassel were unfounded. Looks like a needed win is on the way in St Louis.twmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09435570180342463224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-81963346637906005682010-12-19T11:02:04.327-06:002010-12-19T11:02:04.327-06:00Much depends on whether you believe in the Alcides...Much depends on whether you believe in the Alcides Escobar with a career .633 OPS or the Alcides Escobar who was a blue chip prospect two 635 PA ago.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-34822307489099818922010-12-19T10:43:24.463-06:002010-12-19T10:43:24.463-06:00If this trade goes through then I am done. I have...If this trade goes through then I am done. I have been a fan for 35 years. I remember as a boy watching them all those years against the Yankees and then finally make it to the series against the Phils. I have participated in the Royals fantasy camp where I got to hang out with Willie Wilson. I attended a charity event where I got to play catch and hang out with George Brett. I fly to KC to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-87502136072625496262010-12-19T09:57:12.804-06:002010-12-19T09:57:12.804-06:00I hear that Jeffres is no longer a part of the dea...I hear that Jeffres is no longer a part of the deal. I realize he has drug issues and projects more as a reliever, but the guy can touch 100mph on the gun. Honestly, I'm a little underwhelmed by the deal. Escobar might be great defensively, but he can't hit a lick. Lorenzo Cain is similar in that he only has speed. We got Odorizzi who projects as a stud arm, but he's years away. SeemsGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-76835550727069132882010-12-19T09:51:39.779-06:002010-12-19T09:51:39.779-06:00Be careful what you wish for, or you will surely g...Be careful what you wish for, or you will surely get it in he form of Alcides Escobar and Lorenzo Cain...Vill Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113682553488887263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-4867326607157930932010-12-19T09:51:24.367-06:002010-12-19T09:51:24.367-06:00I absolutely LOVE the trade myself. Yes, we lose ...I absolutely LOVE the trade myself. Yes, we lose the Baseball Jonah, but we also shed ourselves of Yuni, and got a SS that can at least play defense, and a centerfielder with speed and defensive ability as well. Plus two pitching prospects, one that is pretty damn good too! He's a ways away from the majors, though. Pretty nice haul, I'd say!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250964134282394393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-15712555890630460632010-12-19T08:46:35.140-06:002010-12-19T08:46:35.140-06:00They just traded away enough money to pay Crawford...They just traded away enough money to pay Crawford's salary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-30279055505771573812010-12-19T08:40:00.470-06:002010-12-19T08:40:00.470-06:00Rany, I hope you have all day available to write 4...Rany, I hope you have all day available to write 40,000 words on the Greinke trade.twmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09435570180342463224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-59986559576963521942010-12-19T06:09:57.156-06:002010-12-19T06:09:57.156-06:00Rany,
I hope you have your Greinke to Milwaukee...Rany, <br /><br />I hope you have your Greinke to Milwaukee post in the works. <br /><br />Lebron Greinke, Betancourt, and $2M to MIL for Alcides Escobar, Lorenzo Cain, Jake Odorizzi, and Jeremy Jeffress. If you have not yet begun, commence writing.lbp2https://www.blogger.com/profile/08317276098588555029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-16172947957338914052010-12-18T03:45:36.993-06:002010-12-18T03:45:36.993-06:00I just cant see how anyone could say that Gardener...I just cant see how anyone could say that Gardener has more upside then Kemp. <br /><br />If the Royals got Kemp & Gordon, where would they play? Gordon is not predicted to stay at short but rather head to CF. Of course Kemp could move to a corner but then some of his value would be lost.<br /><br />But again, there is no way Gardener is a better option than Matt Kemp.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18318768502043385363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-25325360643453380162010-12-17T15:57:23.154-06:002010-12-17T15:57:23.154-06:00Nathan-
You are not necessarily wrong. Either Ga...Nathan-<br /><br />You are not necessarily wrong. Either Gardner or Kemp would be a major improvement to the outfield.<br /><br />I don't like the strikeouts with Kemp, and I think Gardner has more upside. No real numbers to back me up, just a hunch.<br /><br />Both are very good defensively and that is sorely needed at every position. Maybe Gardner is a little better defensively, but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-77897478577142971182010-12-17T12:17:23.555-06:002010-12-17T12:17:23.555-06:00Wow, Gardner over Kemp? 27-yr-old CF with .275 car...Wow, Gardner over Kemp? 27-yr-old CF with .275 career TAvg and limited pedigree, over 26-yr-old CF with .286 TAvg and long considered a breakout candidate? I'd take Kemp. But maybe there's something to Gardner that I'm missing. For one thing, he probably does face tougher pitching in the AL East.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-66954617255004165172010-12-17T11:54:46.551-06:002010-12-17T11:54:46.551-06:00Jason, that deal makes more sense to me than many ...Jason, that deal makes more sense to me than many of the others I have seen.<br /><br />Kemp is an improvement to the big league team immediately.<br /><br />Gordon solidifies a position of need and he is not far away from the big leagues.<br /><br />Profar from the Rangers is a very exciting prospect, but he is a ways away, and if you are going to trade Greinke I think you should get something Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-21652295550441786652010-12-16T22:04:04.165-06:002010-12-16T22:04:04.165-06:00If it were Greinke for Kemp, D Gordon and Kenley J...If it were Greinke for Kemp, D Gordon and Kenley Jansen, I might go for that. Kemp will make 6 million or so this year be up for abritration in '12 and a FA in '13 (course, he'd likely be a type A), so the Royals would need some future, as well as some current to make it worth it, imo.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018316150047880441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-69955608547587723382010-12-15T18:38:20.660-06:002010-12-15T18:38:20.660-06:00Now, Greinke for Kemp sounds intriguing.Now, Greinke for Kemp sounds intriguing.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-50136451813444776852010-12-15T13:02:50.079-06:002010-12-15T13:02:50.079-06:00Certainly an interesting idea, but I don't see...Certainly an interesting idea, but I don't see it happening. Any move the Phils make for Greinke would include their best prospect Domonic Brown and would leave the cupboard pretty bare--not that that really matters to them at this point. As a Royals fan, Brown would be the ideal CF/lead-off hitter that we desperately need. I'm not sure they have the multiple prospects we'd want Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678658269205055069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3129904004334636055.post-28557781069906721972010-12-15T01:28:11.153-06:002010-12-15T01:28:11.153-06:00OK, I know the Phillies don't match up with th...OK, I know the Phillies don't match up with the Royals. But imagine IF they traded for Greinke. Would it be the best rotation of all time? If you were Amato, would you pull out all the stops just for a shot at that kind of immortality? They could even keep the same group of five aces in place next year!Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201393560100552251noreply@blogger.com